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So I have an Idea for an Lb Rework

Discussion in 'Lordaeron: The Aftermath' started by Acadian, Jan 11, 2018.

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    LB REWORK:
    LB starts with control of the Bastion of The Silverhand inside Stratholme (later known as the Scarlet Bastion) as that is where the silverhand order was founded and where Alonsus' Chapel is and where Alexandros Ultimately met his fate, Tyrs hand and Mardenholde were mostly irrelvant during the Scourge attack of Lordaeron as they were mostly left unmolested and any attacks that they suffered were repelled off plus they mattered more for later events in the LB chain that i will detail.

    Mardenholde should be either only a part of Argent Dawn as that is there current main base of operations beides Lights Hope chapel and the base in Northrend in the Lore or be apart of the Scarlet Crusade as that was their Second Main base of operations besides tyrs hand and Scarlet Monastary.

    Tyrs hand should be a Scarlet Crusade Only starting base as that was its Main base afters its founding and that was mostly due to its position and its fanatic defenders. because of these factors it remained relatively untouched just like Mardenholde. The current backway into Tyrs hand doesnt make sense as there was never a pathway from lightshope chapel and Tyrs hand. I think that should be removed and Lights Hope only be apart of Argent Dawn.

    If Strath is fully taken by the scourge by destroying the Bastion within and Alexandros Mograine bites the bullet then Scarlet Crusade triggers with them Gaining the following bases: Tyrs hand, Mardenholde (Maybe), Scarlet Monastary (maybe). Now some of the rework of these bases would require some reterraining as I think Scarlet Monastary is not even a base worth defending ever atm, (niether is mardenholde atleast early on), and Bastion of the silverhand/Scarlet Bastion within Strath would require reteraining or it becoming a portal base (same could be done for Scarlet monastary imo).

    Events:
    Event 1: At the start LB's only heroes should be Alexandros Mograine, Fairbanks, Garithos and Renault With the First 3 being urevivable. This begining sort of plays out like the Dranai event in LTF in the sense that it is a early game rush between the scourge and LB (mostly just LB and Gray) to compensate for this LB should start with Alexandros already having Ashbringer and Alexander should get a rework as atm hes a pretty shit hero imo. If Alexandros dies and the Bastion within Strath is taken then the event of Renault triggers (betrays father/gets him killed within strath SC triggers).
    Event 1A: Lb manages to hold off scourge and retakes strath, Alexandros gains a buff or LB unlocks a tech that further helps in his fight agaisnt the undead and is rewarded with Gold/lumber etc... He also gains Darion Mograine as another hero. And with Darion alive the requirement to go SC would also require him to die alongside Alexandros.

    Event 2: If Lb cant hold out and Bastion is taken/Alexandros is raped, then SC triggers automatically with him gaining Saiden Dathrohand, Abbendis (unrevivable), and Demtria The Scarlet Oracle. He also gains control of the bases Tyrs Hand and Mardenholde (maybe). In this path LB has the choice to remain the uncorrupted SC and thus fights off the undead eventually gaining more heroes if he retakes strath and lordaeron (gains Malor or Cannon Master willey of retakes Strath, gains Isillien if retakes Lordaeron) if he retakes strath he regains the Bastion but this time its called the Scarlet Bastion and is rebuilt inside Strath, if he retakes Lordaeron then gains the standard affair already implemented. If he remains uncorruped SC he is not kicked out of the Alliance just yet and can reclaim Lordaeron. However if he proceeds to lose Tyrs hand and Abbendis then he can become the Scarlet Onslaught more on that later. The alternatives to this path are Risen (1), or Argent Dawn (Maybe).
    Event 2A: Risen, Saiden can reveal himself to be Balnazaar and corrupt the SC thus kicking him out of the allaince but allowing him to gain risen units and heroes such as corruped versions of Demtria, cannon master willey, instructor Galford, and Malor with the latter 3 if he retakes Strath and regains Bastion. His starting heroes would Balnazzar and Corrupted Demtria. This would give him allaince with the Legion and can help in summoning the legion.

    Event 3: Fall of SC if tyrs hand falls and Abbendis dies, then SC Onslaught is triggered with the starting base already in LTA but also a new base called New Hearthglen in Northrend with Brigitte Abbendis, Barean Westwind and High abbot Landgren. As Scarlet Onslaught if succesful they can eventually either get rid of Barean Westwind (by revealing he is actually Malganis and purging him) and thus gaining SC monastary (prefferably as a portal base) with Sally Whiteman and Renault Mograine. This is only possible if Bridgette reaches a certain level.
    Event 3A: Essentially Risen 2.0 in the sense that Barean is revealed to be Malganis corrupts the Scarlet Onslaught and kills Bridgette. Landgren is corrupted and perhaps corrupted Scarlet Lord Daon is also given (maybe). This is essentially a weaker version of the Balnazzar Risen and gains alliance with the Legion.

    The two risen events are only possible with the deaths of Balnazzar and Malganis from Teal (if that happend then hes gonna be in need of allies : p).

    The Final Event would be Event 3A: Argent Dawn/Crusade
    Essentialy the same as it is in LTA except that he also gains Taelan as a hero (or keep him as a demi) and if Taelan dies then Tyrion gains a buff after resolving himself after his death. This could happen if Mardenholde is kept as Argent Dawn Only and if Mardenholde Falls then Taelan becomes unrevivabile and dies permanently thus triggering the strengthening of Tyrion's Resolve. Lights Hope also becomes a late game event that LB can acquire with Argent Dawn with the requirements of perhaps a level requirement for tyrion. With Lights Hope comes Eligor Dawnbringer as a hero.

    The Stromguarde event can be triggered as Silverhand Lb and Uncorrupted SC LB after that its gone.

    Now the final thing is what about the Ashbringer??? well imo it should go like this:
    Alive Alexander---> Undead Alexander---> Darion if aquired ---> Undead Darion ----> Renault -----> Tyrion.

    Lmk what yall think, if yall think its garbage or w.e then thats fine I just wanted to post this outhere.
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    Don't like this because:
    1. Too many heroes for a faction - At start having 4 heroes is way too much.
    2. Too many events
    3. Too hard would be first battle and extremly hard to balance
    4. The current Lb i think is fairy balanced through the whole game.
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    1. the amount of heroes can be reduced though i dont see how u say 4 heroes at the start is too much when Lb already starts with 3 and can get a 4th super easily by going to stromguarde
    2. I can see that, trimming down the amount of events can be done such as risen 2.0 and the amount of extra heroes one can get.
    3. I dont see how it would be too hard when its already been done in LTF with LB fighting off 3 ppl at the start of the game.
    4. I never said LB isnt balanced i said the current LB has a lot of wasted starting bases and wierd lore stretches such as Mardenholde and Scarlet being pointless throwaway bases, Tyrs hand having too much of a focus despite it only mattering for SC, risen being basically nonexistant (ive almost never seen anyone go risen), Alexandros being extremely lackluster commpared to his legendary Lore status etc...
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    Too many events.
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    Harald Loremaster Shaman Map Maker

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    Isen't Stratholme too small anyway if cult and light blue is going to be there?
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    Just decrease their unit size and it should fit, hitboxes are non-existent anyway.
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    thats why i said it would require reterraining or making the bastion a portal base
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    can never have too many events ha, JK i understand ur point, it can be simplified surely, thats why I wanted to put it out there and receive input.
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    Harald Loremaster Shaman Map Maker

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    The problem if you expand Stratholme is that the city is going to be so huge compared to everywhere else and instances areas is just not a good idea. I don't think the idea with the scarlet bastion is going to work in this map, besides Lb's starting posisiton is good.
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    well ive always thought that the cities should be bigger. And I personally dont have a problem with portal bases. imo Dg was made worse by losing his portal base as now most dgs just abandon it as soon as they get 10 sacrafices.